Blackmage. for now. Black Mage has no damaging oGCDs and a very simple rotation. BLM is more or less a matter of keeping your Thunder DoT up, cast Fire spells while you have MP, and using Blizzard to regenerate your MP, use Scathe or Firestarter/Thundercloud if you need to move. The spell effects are just so lovely and have yet to find any skill or spell that feels as powerful as Deathflare, not to mention how freaking scary you feel during DWT casting those R3's. Also the fire/ice rotation is more fun than the dotting. Their individual hits are huge; with an i95 weapon, I do 2020 critical hits with Fire III with no setup, when it takes me a big setup to break 2000 on SMN. BLM is better for running dungeons because of its AoE superiority. Level both up to 50 and choose whichever's playstyle you prefer. Paladin You can raise dead allies. FFXIV SHADOWBRINGERS: The Grand Cosmos RED MAGE GAMEPLAY 278 [1080/MAX PRESET]. Which brings me to the other part of my question … Hits hard, amazing aoe class, the downside is movement heavy fights, you really have to learn how to maximize your damage using your available skills. The idea is to just throw out as much selfish ranged DPS as possible. Cons: Movement, which interrupts spell casting. Mage Summoner. But, Summoner has undergone a few sweeping changes and many more that are small but essential to understand. BLM's the first DPS class I've put effort into getting to 60 (thank you, PotD). Posted by 6 years ago. I kid. Though I pretty much only play healers, and the only reason I've ever touched Summoner is because I got it for free with Scholar. I somehow came across these blogs on lodestone, class evaluations. On the other hand black mage is a pretty big rush since you'll find yourself getting good at casting until the absolute last second when you need to dodge stuff for the sake of keeping up dps. Unfortunately, Black Mage isn’t much a team player, lacking any useful party buffs and long spell casting times require a Black Mage to stay in one spot longer than most magic classes. Also important is Raging Strikes, Hawk's Eye if Acc. Summons are better than Black Magicks, but Summoners have less MA than Black Mages. On the other hand, BLM has a more straightforward method of doing damage, relying heavily on knowing when you're allowed to finish a cast and knowing where to stand to actually do it. This thread is archived. thought the DWT mechanic and the mp management with R3 really spiced things up. Press J to jump to the feed. I have THM up to 15, and now ARC up to 22. 0. Raging strikes, tri disaster, bane, painflare, swiftcast shadowflare, garuda's AoE, enkindle, painflare, deathflare. Trait Job Gauge. Maybe the DoT ticks make her resume attacking. - Challenger. Unfortunately, this is most endgame encounters (coil, EX primals). SMN I enjoy much more at 50 and before. Came up the southern face just to the right of the Horde Camp to the top and killed the mage without any intereference from others. Cons: Mediocre AoE especially if there are more than 4 mobs in the pack. save. But I do find that the repetitiveness of the rotation can get just a little dull after long hours of playing, moreso than summoner (others may find the opposite to be true, aka smn becomes tedious after long hours whereas blm eventually falls into more of a "zen"). The summoner brings quite a bit more of utility to the team and is usally of higher value to the team than a BLM since having an extra class with rez and in some fights potential of using a pet is handy, that being said in fights where no one messes up this utility becomes unnecessary and a blm using apoc might even net a more useful utility skill. 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